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March 28, 2006

White Wolf Wikifies

Posted by Bryant on March 28, 2006 at 01:57 PM

I'd say "wikis go mainstream," but it seems odd to say that about a gaming company not owned by Hasbro. Regardless: White Wolf has a wiki. This is a tad more significant than The Toothpaste Disaster -- while Mongoose and White Wolf are both around the same level importance in the hobby/industry, the Toothpaste Disaster was somewhat tangential. White Wolf is putting their wiki front and center.

It'll be interesting to see a) if it gets traction, and b) how White Wolf deals with (say) speculative pages.

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Comments

It's too bad they don't explicitly state the copyright status of user contributions -- they mention the games themselves are copyright by the studio, but not how they will be licensing the content of user contributions. I don't expect them to be cool enough to put it under GFDL or anything but it would be good if they explicitly stated whether users still own their contributions.

Posted by: Kit O'Connell at Mar 28, 2006 7:55:10 PM

It's an interesting experiment... I'll be interested in hearing how it goes.

Posted by: ScottM at Mar 29, 2006 1:39:23 PM

Maybe I'm just really jaded due to White Wolf's recent business practices, but I view this in light of White Wolf's recent offer to become the host of the popular, awesome, and independent Exalted Wiki (exalted.xi.co.nz/wiki/wiki.pl), to which most of the major participants responded with a hearty "No thanks." People put too much work into the wiki to have their content controlled by the whims of another entity that could decide to remove content or bring the whole thing down at any time.

Starting a wiki is not an original White Wolf idea. The Exalted Wiki has been in place for years and remains the best overall source of information about Exalted. Like with their re-organization of the Camarilla and their pay-for-play scheme a few months back (remember that?), I think this is just yet another attempt to bring active, successful fan operations under official WW management. This is not "Wikis are cool! Let's start a Vampire wiki!" but instead "The Exalted Wiki is really popular! It would be even better if we hosted it! And if we made one for all our game lines!"

Posted by: Jonathan Walton at Apr 4, 2006 1:11:59 PM

I disagree. I'm sure there is some desire for control / self-interest involved in starting these wikis, but it's still pushing a good, progressive collaborative tool to the forfront. We'll see over time if WW can sustain the social needs of the Wiki (a challenge for any private organization) but I'm giving them the a "charitable reading" (as it were) on this development.

Posted by: Dev Purkayastha at Apr 4, 2006 1:23:12 PM

Yeah, i probably shouldn't pre-judge WW on the wiki issue. But they make it so hard when they sent their tech guy over to basically offer "terms of surrender" to the Exalted Wiki.

It just seems like WW's relationship with their fanbase is needlessly antagonistic. As a company that depends, to a certain extent, on the goodwill of your customers, why go out of your way to make provocative and unpopular moves? It would be understandable if the Exalted Wiki was failing or needed someone to host it, but this really just seems like a takeover attempt, whatever their intent actually is.

Posted by: Jonathan Walton at Apr 4, 2006 1:41:13 PM

Yeah, i probably shouldn't pre-judge WW on the wiki issue. But they make it so hard when they sent their tech guy over to basically offer "terms of surrender" to the Exalted Wiki.

It just seems like WW's relationship with their fanbase is needlessly antagonistic. As a company that depends, to a certain extent, on the goodwill of your customers, why go out of your way to make provocative and unpopular moves? It would be understandable if the Exalted Wiki was failing or needed someone to host it, but this really just seems like a takeover attempt, whatever their intent actually is.

Posted by: Jonathan Walton at Apr 4, 2006 1:42:07 PM